Sunday, January 24, 2010

Are Some Things Forever?

I've been in a relationship for a number of months, and that's part of my absence from the blogosphere. Quietlisten is the part of me that is made up of a laundry list of fetishes, interests, and ideas, as well as the hopes and fears that follow from that list. So as I have built trust and gotten to know this other person, I've put all that "stuff" into the metaphorical closet and hung a metaphorical sign reading "Greasy Car Parts and Dirty Jock Straps; Please Open For Cleaning." Shocker; to date it has been completely passed by. After some time, though, Quietlisten has started jiggling the doorknob, testing the hinges, and is about ready to kick the door into splinters.

All of this makes me wonder about the wisdom of developing fetishes that may not be well accepted by a more traditional partner. I'm not talking about the typical fetishes such as corsets (*whimper*), high-heeled thigh boots (*groan*), and basic BDSM gear. Having a little tie-up with sex is pretty passe these days. But when your fetishes are more relationship-focused it gets a bit dicey to interweave any of those -- let alone all of them -- with a healthy, loving relationship with an unsuspecting partner.

Take, for example, control. I dream about being controlled, about being vulnerable to someone I care about and meeting her expectations, putting myself second to her wishes. But I need to have a deep level of trust and committment to want someone to control me. "I'm a Domme, get on your knees" would make me break into fits of laughter unless I genuinely respected and trusted the woman saying it. And the deeper the committment to each other, the deeper and more expansive I'd enjoy the control because I'd trust that our full lives were incorporated into the tapestry, not just the fetish.

I also love cross-dressing, though I have found that it's almost universally despised by men and women alike. Provide me with a list of blogs written about the joys and wonders of feminizing a man, whittle those down to the ones claiming to be written by women, and I would guess that better than 90% of the time it's really a cross-dressing man looking for an audience for his fantasies. Nothing wrong with that (besides being deceptive, but this is the internet) but the point is that there are almost no real-world non-pro-Domme women who genuinely LIKE that fetish. That's a huge shame, because if done right it can shine a bright light into parts of a man's mind and soul that cannot be revealed in other ways. Yes, many cross-dressers do a horrendous job of using cross-dressing to connect and understand, but there are a few of us who actually see it that way.

So why all of this talk about fetish and acceptance? Well, I'm approaching the point in the relationship where I'll have to push hard to convert the initial hints I've been dropping -- constructively and well-timed, by the way -- into a better picture of who I am. I have to do it in a way that doesn't leave me driving around town late at night in the rain wondering how I could have messed up this great opportunity with this amazing person. There's a clock ticking... go too fast and I'm a pervert; go too slow and I've been lying through omission.

I'm tempted to do triage to simplify the problem, to just ignore the fetishes and desires and thoughts and the huge and wonderful world I have built inside my head. I could probably survive for quite a while going through the missionary motions while wondering what I gave up. That's not healthy. Neither is losing this relationship.

Ideally, we'd plumb the depths of our respective sexualities and become closer through them. Maybe she would enjoy having her home cleaned by a guy in a simple maid's dress who wants desperately for her to be happy. Maybe she would love to send me off to work with the key to my chastity device in her purse, giggling to herself through the day that she has that kind of power and control over me... and my loving every minute of it. Perhaps she wants to know what it's like to be the penetrator and would find the idea of playing with a strap-on to be fun, empowering, liberating.

Any of those scenarios is possible, but a realistic look at the chances tells me that I should not set my expectations around them. I do care for her desperately and want to represent myself as honestly as I can without losing her. Decades of allowing my mind to roam freely and develop layers of fetishes is working against me now. I have to find the right balance to consider myself whole while not wrecking what she and I have built. It's a hell of a tightrope, and I hate that I am so bad at these things.

The real question mark is that I don't even know if any of these fetishes CAN be undone. I'm sitting here right now with my chastity cage on, enjoying it thoroughly. I disposed of the bulk of my femme wardrobe out of fear that it would be found and raise questions I was not prepared to answer; but I'm craving the feeling of a pair of heels, thigh hose, miniskirt, bra, and top, long nails, and earrings.

There is no easy way to introduce those things or to make her understand the layers behind them: vulnerability, supression of ego, focus on pleasing, being controlled, used, enjoyed. How strong is the door on that closet? How much can it hold? Can I let a little bit out at a time without having all those "greasy car parts and dirty jock straps" come tumbling out? Can I be honest with her about who I am, claim that I'm being open and transparent, but please pay no attention to the pounding noises and flying paint chips from that door over there. Maybe the door will hold, and maybe it won't make any difference. Maybe that's the choice I'm left with: partial truth with her or wide-open fetish holiday alone. Neither is ideal.

Which will I chose?

What is for forever?

Good luck to everyone in finding happiness. I'm continuing to try.

Quietlisten

9 comments:

  1. Is it okay if I call you suzy Q (Q for quiet & listen)?

    You bring up so many points, I scarcely know where to begin. Yes - there is truth that a fetish can overwhelm a relationship even when both partners are "down with it". In fact, it could become obsessive. And maybe, someday, one or the other may decide they have had enough and where does that leave things? On the other hand, even the most powerful of fetishes can be pushed aside, for a time, but it is unlikely to be banned forever - the attraction is just too great. It is the human condition to proceed with that which is pleasant.

    It is a shame that you purged to be 'safe'... But I do understand your fear. As you say, it is a rarity for a woman to truly enjoy the femming of her partner - rare, but not nonexistent. I would agree, that it takes a particular kind of woman to enjoy such a thing. Is your significant other one of those women? I have no clue - and apparently neither do you - but you, of all people, should have a clue.

    Here is My opinion for what it is worth. In the context of moving your relationship forward, you should speak of your inclinations - Gently. Her response will at least gives you a choice. A choice is far better than denial of who and what you are based on fear alone.

    Life is full of choices and some are difficult. My guess is that suzy Q has more than a fetish for her femming. I don't doubt there are fetishistic aspects but that isn't the entire story is it suzy Q?

    I hope My comments do not come across as harsh - they are not meant to be.

    Miss D

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  2. Thanks for the comment, Miss D. Unfortunately, her reaction to gentle hints precipitated the purge. Yes, difficult choices. Each involves giving up something important.

    Quietlisten

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  3. What exactly WERE the "gentle hints"? I nearly lost sol once because he told me he'd told me once our marriage was over because I wasn't interested in a particular fetish about which he'd been dropping "gentle hints" for years. The only problem was the hints were so "gentle" they never registered on my radar. Coming from a mental platform where he "assumed" I wasn't interested and that all attempts to raise the subject of this kink were doomed to fail, he decided to leave, having fully convinced himself he'd exchanged a dialogue with me about it. But he hadn't.

    So really double check those "gentle hints" my friend. We are so pleased you've found happiness but your wiring will not change.

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  4. Yay! It's Mistress160! So great to hear from you. :)

    Well, the final-straw "gentle hint" went something like:

    Me, admiring the outfit worn by a woman on TV: "Nice dress."

    Her, looking: "I'd look terrible in that dress."

    Me: "I wouldn't" *mischievous smirk*

    Her: "Oh, God..." *huff* "If I EVER catch you wearing..." disappears into the kitchen, clearly annoyed.

    Me: "Crap."

    Me: *changes the channel*

    Me: *obsesses about fetishes and wiring and relationships and closed-minded society*

    QL

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  5. I think it is possible that She was reacting to the fact that you found the lady on the TV attractive in that dress. A dress that She would not feel attractive in. That left Her feeling unattractive to you. Complex - yes, I know.

    On the other hand, maybe She just didn't like that dress - not on Her - not on you - not on anyone. Maybe She would prefer you in something quite different - something with frills perhaps. That would be My choice - a pet is always so cute in her frills.

    Maybe the conversation needed one more comment from you... "If you found me in that dress, you would do what? Spank me???? Please????"

    Human interaction is always complex. In most cases, it takes a long time to understand another person well enough to decode what lies beneath their comments.

    I agree with Mistress 160. Gentle is the right tack - But - Not Too Gentle... Stick with it suzy Q.

    Miss D

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  6. QL,

    I've been thinking of you quite a lot, as I've been mentoring a couple who've been dealing with similar issues ... you know, you in 20 years, when the vanilla wife who adores you HATES your fetish because of all the years of lies, not the fetish itself (that was their story ... but it's everyone's story. His name is SilkDreamz on Fetlife, go read some of his posts).

    Oh oh sol's home ... I'll come back and finish later...

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  7. Written next day before heading off for a fisting workshop lol:

    This is long so I'll split it up into two messages:

    Anyway, what I was trying to say is: don't go the SilkDreamz route. He's finally found as much as he loves his lady, the cross dressing desires finally HAVE to be expressed. And the other needs linked to it. She by now hates everything to do with it, because it's become this "thing" between them, with a hostiry of many years of fights and lies and betrayals, and because like many women and wives she feared what she did not understand.

    I addressed that fear. When they met me I made them make lists, over what they could compromise on. I also encouraged another form of play that I thought might distract her from the fetish she now hates so much. They are now exploring chastity and she's absolutely loving it because she's gained control (which means he's loving it too). She's joined Fetlife and they both attended one of my real time events. How's this: she has agreed they will attend a sissy / maid tea party I'm holding in a couple of months, and that he may dress up. They are both so much happier but a month ago he was in despair through lack of communication and almost at the point of leaving, despite loving her so much.

    I've shared their story (something I would never normally do) because as you know I have always denied your stats. This again this was an example of a woman saying "no I won't allow this" to cross dressing ... only to realize when the fetish and it's origin were explained, that it was not so bad. But they still have to deal with twenty years of history of (as she sees it) lies and lack of trust.

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  8. part 2:

    No matter how happy the relationship you are in, you ARE going to reach the same place as SD at some point. I know your wiring. You are not a dabbler in lingerie. You are a true cross dresser. pure in it's art and expression. It IS you ... so any other future is not an option. Quietlisten is going to need to express himself, at first it will just be online now and then ... but soon enough it will move real time, to garments slipped on now and then, whether hers (as sol did to me) or secret purchases (as happened to SD). At some point she'll find out and you will face not only being outed but the consequences of years of concealment. That is the price you pay for a relationship with a vanilla.

    At that point you may have a happy ending (like sol and SD) or you may join the stats you like to quote, and lose her.

    Your friends online have encouraged you for years to seek out kinksters and a real time scene close to your home, in the hope that this would lead to a kinky relationship that suited you. I think I know three great Dommes in your area looking for true subs, it's not like there are not people out there or that you didn't have the network to help you find them. It was YOUR choice to go forward with a vanilla relationship ... and your choice to leave your online friends for months without a word while you did so.

    Now the fears are back. OK. We're still here for you, our support is always there, but you are where you are THROUGH YOUR OWN CHOICES. We warned and warned about the dangers of the vanilla woman you chose. And here I am warning again. And again the choices are yours:

    1) Tell her what you are, and deal with her responses. Loose her, if that's the way it goes, but at least be honest in that loss ... which will also leave you free to find someone who suits your interests and desires.

    2) Conceal what you are, and deal with the consequences when QL eventually escapes his prison and demands expression. Sol lasted about ten years, SD quite a bot more....

    3) Or conceal what you are, with QL in prison for the rest of your days, using the love and support of that vanilla relationship to cover the wounds. It won't (and every argument will see QL trying to escape) but you can convince yourself it can be enough.

    I'm sorry if this all sounds a bit grim but so is your situation. My advice to you is go with option 1. If this woman truly loves you, like sol adn SD were lucky to find, then she WILL listen and she WILL try. And if she says she truly can't ... well, then. She has done all she can and must be honored for it. But you must allow her to make her own decisions.

    Trust yourself, in that you made the right choice in her.

    OK enough of the deep and meaningful from me. I'm off to learn how to fist my boy...

    As always I wish you the very best in life, QL.

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  9. I'm just going to leave a good luck hug to let you know I have been reading. Ms160 has great advise and mine would similar in nature....sweetie your sub to the core, it won't and can't be pushed into a box. Always here if you need an ear. love and hugs Bon

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